REFINED & UNHINGED: THE PODCAST

A mother-daughter podcast on womanhood, real talk, and the wild ride of self-discovery. From refined reflections to unhinged confessions—this is womanhood, uncensored. Refined & Unhinged is the unapologetically honest podcast that dives deep into the evolving female experience—hosted by mother-daughter duo Jen Dryden Hess and Ali Stricklin.

Jen is an empty nester navigating her Third Act with bold curiosity, while Ali is running multiple businesses and raising two daughters in Los Angeles. Together, they unpack the beautifully chaotic journey of being a woman—no topic off-limits, no filter applied.

Each week, you’ll hear raw, intergenerational conversations that span personal growth, self-discovery, sexuality, motherhood, mental health, relationships, wellness, career pivots, financial literacy, and society’s messiest expectations. Sometimes it’s deep. Sometimes it’s hilarious. It’s always authentic.

What makes Refined & Unhinged special is our commitment to building a community where women’s stories become bridges. Each episode features relatable experiences that remind you you’re not alone in your journey. By sharing both our vulnerabilities and victories, we’re creating more than just a podcast—we’re fostering a movement of connection that extends beyond the airwaves.

Whether you’re a 25-year-old questioning everything or a 65-year-old rewriting the rules, this is your space to feel seen, laugh out loud, and connect with women doing the work (imperfectly) at every stage. Expect guest interviews from experts and everyday women alike, generational hot takes, and sofa-side wine fueled chats.

The conversations don’t end when the episode does. Join our thriving community of open-minded, open-hearted women who are embracing the mess, the magic, and everything in between. Continue these important discussions, find your tribe, and attend exclusive in-person events through the Refine Social Club—where podcast listeners become real-life connections.

REAL and BEAUTIFUL CONVERSATIONS: The cohosts are fantastic to listen to. Their stories are vulnerable and transparent which offers an avenue for listeners to connect in their own raw way. As women in this world we often show up as the person we should be for the situation and it’s lovely to hear two women who are all the things… moms, daughters, friends, cohosts, badasses just show up to have a deep conversation publicly without any mask. They are who they are and they’re sharing it with the audience. I look forward to following along.”

— Sara B. from Chicago

MEET YOUR HOSTS

Mother-Daughter duo Ali Stricklin and Jen Dryden Hess.

  • Podcast Host and Co-founder

    • People are surprised to know that I am just 5’1”. Small body, big energy

    • Love a Picante from Soho West Hollywood with the view.

    • Don’t watch any TV and feel really out of the loop when any pop culture comes up in convo

    • Average about 20 concerts a year, all different types of music

  • Podcast Host & Co-Founder

    • Travel Fanatic who is currently leading the family “race to 7 continents” with 6.

    • Loved being in theater and still a big fan of costume parties. The crazier the better!

    • Dolly Parton bought my childhood home!

    • I learned ritual from my Dad. One that tested and taught me everyday, he would stand outside on our driveway and with a big smile on his face, say “smile for me!” as I left for school. It unnerved me and also made me see the happiness in every day.